Elephant’s Bookshelf:
Perhaps this isn’t a fair question to ask a person who’s worked in advertising,
but how long have you written fiction?
RP: I wasn't a copywriter, so the question is fair. I
studied creative writing in both high school and college and wrote a lot of
short stories for school, but I really put my creative needs to work late in
college, songwriting and performing. I was a decent, not great, singer and
guitarist, but I was a good storyteller. I had some songs published, but I'm
not sure that counts as fiction. Several years performing with a very good
improv theater troupe put writing in the backseat, although I do believe the
experience helped my think-as-you-go creativity and no doubt encouraged the
"pantser" in me. When I moved into the advertising industry, I
returned to my first love, read stacks of books on writing, journaled, and wrote
short stories -- for my own enjoyment and for the practice. Eventually I
decided I needed to quit reading about writing (and working in media sales) and
just do it. That was about fifteen years ago. Since then I've written many
shorts (often NSFW) and a novel. And, of course, I still study the craft, too.
EB: It’s hard to
believe your fiction hadn’t been published before Summer’s Double Edge. What’s taken so long?
RP: I guess I was taken in early by the odds against making
a living writing, so I wasn't driven to get published. As I said earlier, I had
other creative outlets. I didn't think about it much until I had that novel
under my belt and thought I'd see how the querying thing went. At that time, the
only avenue that seemed legit was the traditional agent/publisher road.
Self-pubbing still had the taint of vanity press. I did think about small, independent
publishers, but I guess I thought I needed to try the "old" way
first. When I queried, out of about ten sent, I got one request for a full, and
when I found myself actually hoping for a rejection, I realized I didn't want
to go the agent route. I'm no kid, I can't promise a long, lucrative career,
and I didn't want someone asking me, "What do you have for me today?"
I never really thought about sending out shorts. I'd say getting involved at AgentQuery
Connect and getting to "know" so many cool people, then seeing their
work in your earlier anthologies, had me think well, what the hell.
EB: “Winter’s Birds”
caught our attention right away. What inspired it?
RP: The truncated version of the newspaper article that
starts the story was the actual inspiration. When I read that, one cold January
morning in our local paper here in Dayton, Ohio, I grabbed scissors and cut it
out. I knew there was a story there. How did it happen? What got them to that
point? So many possibilities. So I carried it in my computer case to the office
and home for a long time. It begged for the story of who they might have been
and how and why they ended up there. (I'm avoiding the spoiler.)
EB: Off the bat, the
characters came across as a well-established couple who’ve been through a lot
together. Did you know what the ending to this story would be when you first
starting writing about them or did it evolve over several revisions?
RP: Since it was based on a news article, I did know how it
would end. It was, in fact, the ending that needed the story to get there. With
the many directions it could have gone—I didn't want it to be too sentimental,
it couldn't be too comedic with that ending, maybe it was a horror thing—I just
kept turning it over. Then one day my partner and I were having one of those
half-serious-but-let's-joke-to-keep-it-light conversations about which of us
would go first. Can't be you, has to be me. Another time, I'd joked that I
don't believe, ideally, in suicide, but I could just stop taking all the meds.
Voila. There was the story. Once I had that, the only real evolution in the
writing of it was deciding, halfway through, that Stanley and Phyllis, for me,
needed to be Stanley and Phil.
EB: With your
background in advertising, what is your sense on how promoting one’s work is different
in this era of social media versus the long-established traditional media
approaches?
RP: Well, since my advertising background consisted mostly
of media placement and sales, I can say that some of the old tried-and-true
aspects of promotion remain the same: Reach and frequency, and cutting through
the clutter. The differences, though, are huge. Back in the day, the media were
almost exclusively newspaper and magazines. Press releases were usually put
together by ad agencies and public relations people. (Television was my
business, but books were rarely, if ever, promoted on TV.) So the idea was the
larger the "reach" of a venue -- meaning the number of target persons
any given medium offered -- the less "frequency" was needed, and the
smaller the reach (a community paper or specialty magazine, for example), the
more frequency required. One balanced the reach/frequency of various outlets to
achieve a desired "number of impressions." Figuring all that out,
writing the releases, and getting it out was done primarily for the author by
the PR folks. The author mostly just had to show up and be intelligent and
charming.
EB: And now we have
extremely fractured audiences sharing the same huge media outlets.
RP: My point exactly. And this means cutting through the
clutter is infinitely more difficult. Individuals are far more, if not
completely, responsible for their own promotion, and that involves not just
knowing who represents your target audience, but how to get them to pay
attention to you. The individual has much more control but also much more responsibility.
The "reach" of most social media is beyond what any of the
"traditional" media could offer, but, unlike, say, the New York Times, where its entire
readership would see your promotional piece, now only those who choose to, by
friending or following, will see those pieces. It's an open world now. Little
promotion is done or arranged for you. It's pretty much up to you how
effectively and well you present yourself.
EB: Would you say
it’s better or worse than it used to be?
RP: I'd say that today's wide open market offers so much
more opportunity, with traditional publishing, self-publishing, and indie publishing
houses all having validity, and the consumer having greater word-of-mouth influence.
And for just that reason, it's a much greater challenge for the individual
author to break through the clutter. There are simply so many more players on
the field.
RP: What are you
working on now?
(Laughs). Not sounding stupid or pedantic while I answer
these questions.
I'm working on a new short, and my brain is working on where
it wants to settle for another novel. It's suffering a little ADD when it comes
to that. Look, a squirrel!
EB: Thanks so much
for your time and your insight, Rick. I’ll let you get that squirrel. Oh wow,
there’s a bright shiny thing!
2 comments:
Great questions, great answers, great interview. I loved your story, Richard. It was beautifully done.
Just now saw your comment, Jeff. Thanks very much!
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